Preferred Citation: Dodds, Eric R. The Greeks and the Irrational. Berkeley: University of California Press, c!, printing : The Greeks and the Irrational (Sather Classical Lectures) ( ): Eric R. Dodds: Books. E. R. DODDS. The Greeks and the Irrational. Berkeley and Los. Angeles, University of California Press, Pp. ix + $ (Sather Classical Lectures.
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Just as the truth about the future would be attained only if man were in touch with a knowledge wider than his own, so the truth about the past could be preserved only on a like condition. This seems to me entirely justified. Lists with This Book.
Its an info-dump from the mouth of a howitzer. As a result of his call he undergoes a period of rigorous training, which commonly involves solitude and fasting, and may involve a psychological change of sex.
The Greeks and the irrational
If we do so, we shall find that in geeks respects the epic tradition thw reproduced with remarkable fidelity. To some men he gives a mixed assortment, to others, unmixed evil, so that they wander tormented over the face of the earth, “unregarded by gods or men.
But plainly on a wider view there is little to be said for a system which placed the patient at the mercy of his own unconscious impulses, disguised as divine monitions.
But that was a matter for the poet’s choice. Selected pages Ggeeks Page. Dodds argues that the progressive excision of “irrationality” in the Stoic and Epicurean traditions turns out to be a regression–a failure to appreciate ireational affective elements of living a human life. Offences against parents constitute so monstrous a crime as to demand special treatment: But sooner or later in most cultures there comes a time – 32 – of suffering when most people refuse to be content with Achilles’ view, the view that “God’s in his Heaven, all’s wrong with the world.
Lhe llegit dues vegades, el i el The first chapter was really interesting, about Agamemnon and Achilles and Odysseus and the gang, and it was a chapter I wish I had read several years ago, since it is grseks helpful insight for trying to teach the Iliad and Odyssey to sophomores, as I tend to do on occasion.
In short, Dodds examines how the ancient Greeks, prior to roughly BCE, dealt with the unknown, pain, and death. We shall see in later chapters that strong traces of this way of interpreting the passions survive even thw writers like Euripides and Plato.
University of Chicago Press, published two years after Strauss’s death”the book will engage the attention of those who continue to entertain the question whether the Laws is not a sweeping recantation that expresses Plato’s senescent disenchantment with Perfection. In I liad 1 he becomes Athena, the goddess of good thd.
Such cases, relatively rare in modern Europe and America, seem to be found more often among the less advanced peoples, [ Homeric interpretation of the irrational was as an interference of the normal course of life by “nonhuman agency,” interrupting or influencing the subject’s thought and conduct. Science Logic doddx Mathematics. If the waking world has certain advantages of solidity and continuity, its social opportunities are terribly restricted. It was a Muse who took from Demodocus his bodily vision, and gave him something better, the gift of song, because she loved him.
This is the only dream in Homer which is interpreted symbolically.
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When Theognis calls hope and fear “dangerous daemons,” or when Sophocles speaks of Eros as a power that “warps to wrong the righteous mind, for its destruction” [ we should not dismiss this as “personification”: Barnes – – Classical World: What I have thus far tried to do is to show, by examining one particular type of religious tue, that behind fhe term “Homeric religion” there lies something more than an artificial machinery of serio-comic gods and goddesses, and that we shall do it less than justice if we dismiss it as an agreeable interlude of lighthearted buffoonery between the presumed profundities of an Aegean Earth-religion about which we know little, and those of an “early Orphic movement” about which we know even less.
Rose – – The Classical Review irrationak Hence Olympianism in its moralised form tended to become a religion of fear, a tendency which is reflected in the religious vocabulary. In this one I shall deal with some of the new forms which these Homeric ideas assumed in the course of ireational Archaic Age. Instead, humanity is at the mercy of an apparently arbitrary Power and any attempt to deny this is inevitably futile. I expect to be reminded, in the first place, that “the Greeks were not dosds and secondly, that in these relatively new studies the accepted truths of to-day are apt to become the discarded errors of to-morrow.
Can we draw lessons from what Dodds ultimately confesses is dosds theme of his book — “the failure of Greek rationalism” — so that we, unlike the Greeks, will face squarely “those irrational elements in human nature which govern, without our knowledge, so much of our behavior and so much of what we think is our thinking” and subdue them? The phrase is appropriate only to dreams of the passive type, but we find it used even when the dreamer is himself the central figure in the dream action.
They were certainly not ventriloquists in the modern sense of the term, as is often assumed.
If you are a hardcore Hellenophile, then this is one of the best books ever.